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Post by jmaxwell on Apr 15, 2008 3:42:13 GMT -5
Hey there part of our overall message is about acceptance of anyone no matter what jesus accepts anyone do you? let me know your thoughts?
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Post by ironguardian on Apr 15, 2008 3:59:10 GMT -5
Thats very honorable of you, may God help you out with that. This is a great topic.
I try to see everyone as a creature of God... but like most people I have my prejudices and subconsciously look down on certain people. I include and accept them if needed, but I wouldn't go out of my way to talk to or befriend them. This is something that I know I need to change.
Some times its something as shallow as physical appearance (race) or who they are holding hands with (sexuality) that causes me to think differently about people... and I always feel bad when I notice I'm doing it. Its not the way my parents of religion has brought me up, and I don't know where I've got it from, but I know its not right.
I would never turn anyone away or not help them if they asked though, its more of an attitude problem than one of my actions.
Then of course, there are people who have done horrible things in the past, such as violent or sexual crime, or even just lied about something important... accepting them is hard, very hard. I feel that Jesus would have accepted them, but still expected them to pay the Earthly consequences for their actions.
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Post by jmaxwell on Apr 15, 2008 4:13:09 GMT -5
Very interesting Rowly very interesting indeed. I think that Jesus would have forgiven anyone even Adolf hitler personaly if even on his deathbed he had asked God to forgive him and accpeted jesus his place would be in heaven [although highly unlikley that Hitler belived in the Lord almighty]. As far as the natural prejudices go i totaly understand we are all humans after all. A good way of looking at it is that if i feel naturaly hateful towards people i can understand that people feel ''naturaly'' gay and they can just be born with it just like we are born with hate but because jesus has set the example of the benefits of losing our hate towards people and the benefits this encourages us i hope this helps.
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Post by ironguardian on Apr 15, 2008 4:19:42 GMT -5
Thats a good way of looking at it. Its similar to lust I guess, these prejudices. It seems "natural" and hard to control thinking about it, but in the end its our choice if we act on them or not.
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Post by jmaxwell on Apr 15, 2008 4:26:46 GMT -5
Yes well we are human Rowl we are born into sin from the day we are born and we are trained by the disgusting filth of man to desire sin although it harms us? so much!. The Good thing is God is there from the day we are born to, watching us carrying us safley into the world he watched us take our first step he watched us when we first cryed and this is great because this shows he loves us and has aplan for us and wants most of us not to fall to far. God bless James
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