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Post by ironguardian on Sept 10, 2007 5:13:22 GMT -5
I've posted the direct link to the post in which he said it... I wouldn't pay too much attention to him, after all what the hell does this guy know about drumming? undark.net/viewtopic.php?p=26517#26517
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Post by metasaiah on Sept 10, 2007 5:14:42 GMT -5
Idiots are a dime a dozen - I wouldn't have bothered reposting it lol
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Post by metasaiah on Sept 10, 2007 5:17:08 GMT -5
...but in this case it's worth it hehe
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Post by godrulz on Sept 10, 2007 6:13:56 GMT -5
Yeah, what would he know? ;D He's only 1 of the best drummers around ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Jayson is just being kind, trust me.
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Post by ironguardian on Sept 10, 2007 6:26:09 GMT -5
*smacks Dave on the back of the head* Stop being so modest, or I'll have to beat it out of you ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by godrulz on Sept 10, 2007 6:28:19 GMT -5
;D haha. Thanks mate. I appreciate your encouragement. It means alot!!
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Post by graveforsaken on Sept 10, 2007 20:08:55 GMT -5
Yeah, Jayson Sherlock. Who did he ever inspire.
Only every Christian metal drummer on the planet!!!
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Post by metasaiah on Sept 11, 2007 4:11:08 GMT -5
You'll hopefully meet him soon Dave - he's very cool ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by ironguardian on Sept 11, 2007 4:43:55 GMT -5
A picture of all Dave, Tim, Jayson, Damien and Paul at eh Melbourne gig would ROCK!!
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Post by zooba on Sept 11, 2007 10:21:53 GMT -5
and yet, it still wouldn't be half as cool as if I were there...
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Post by Todd on Sept 13, 2007 13:37:43 GMT -5
this may be off topic, and spur a bit of a discussion but........ Jayson Sherlock is far better then Ted from tourniquet any day of the week......at least that is what i believe when it comes to being a well rounded fluid drummer who isn't a 'loose drummer' like Lars form Metallica. yep I compared Ted to Lars cause well, live tourniquet really isn't that solid of a band where Mort.......well Morty just kills them.
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Post by trailblazer777 on Sept 13, 2007 22:04:10 GMT -5
yeah Mort very impressive live when I heard them in Perth last year...some of the live tracks of tourniquet I have heard (only ones I have heard are the ones on the reissued version of stop the bleeding CD) were nowhere near as good as the studio stuff...what tourniquet is trying to do in the studio is often incredibly hard to reproduce live...and sometimes its more the singer or the bass player or guitarist that does a good job but not a legendary job live (and from what I heard of Mort live in Perth last year all 3 band members were very tight livem and gelled well together to create a complete good sound as a band...
I think ted and Jayson are very different sorts of drummers, both are true legends/champions at what they do for sure...maybe they should have a drum off or something...
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Post by ironguardian on Sept 13, 2007 22:28:08 GMT -5
Yeah they are both real legends in the scene. Ted is brilliant at the styles he plays, as is Jayson. They are a little hard to compare though as they play differently. Although Jayson desn't just play drums, he can do everything brilliantly.
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Post by Todd on Sept 13, 2007 23:21:57 GMT -5
that's because Jayson is a brilliant guy, whereas i feel Ted goes overboard with trying to be too brilliant when it comes to writing tourniquet songs.
true, two different styles, but if Jayson played in tourniquet I think it would whip that band into shape because Sherlock and such a huge command of time when it comes to playing live and seems to be able to click/gel well with just about anybody he plays with.
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Post by ironguardian on Sept 14, 2007 3:17:11 GMT -5
Yeah, even just a quick few day workshop with Jayson would whip any band into shape
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Post by metasaiah on Sept 14, 2007 4:24:15 GMT -5
I must say that I agree about Sherlock being better than Ted. But I wouldn't base it on what I've seen of early Tqt footage. I think many bands would cringe to watch their early material, given how far they may have come since, and certainly that would be the case with our bands here in the Perth scene. It's possible to make albums near perfect far more easily than live performances, especially when the band is young.
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Post by trailblazer777 on Sept 14, 2007 9:47:17 GMT -5
I think Ted is more creative than Jayson, he comes up with things to do on the drums noone else including Jayson would have even dreamt of, and his songwriting ability is also masterful!
Tourniquet is so much more original and unique the most other thrash and death bands, and that is mostly due to Ted.
so for me I think ted is like a modern day Bach or Beethoven coming up with incredible drumming compositions and in that sense he is a very accomplished musician. he also has the skill and hard work to pull off the incredible drumming setups he invents. I reckon he would do stuff regularly that Jayson never dreams of doing. Thats why I like Tourniquet so much because of the intricate classical songs which are also brutal and breakneck speed at the same time. I think as a metal band they rely more on their incredibly melodic metal to win you over with masterful musicianship whereas a lot of other bands Mort included rely more on blasting you and changes in volume, which to me is not as good musicianship, and because of that I think Ted brings a lot of ideas and skill/hard work to drumming that noone Jayson included brings to a live or studio performance.
That said, Jayson can probably do things Ted would struggle to do, if at all, due to the incredible energy and timing Jayson brings to the table.
Ted fits well the genre of a classically influenced intricate but still faster than most thrash drummer, while Jayson is a more standard death metal drummer, still with some intricate beats, but majoring more on brutal flat out speed, double bass, and is possibly better in timing at great speed than ted, plus has the ability to maintain sustained brutal faster drumming for much longer...I think Jaysons ability to hold that incredibly fast and well controlled brutal assualt for longer than anyone sets him apart from anyone, Ted included, and is why he is able to really drive a band maybe better live. That said Ted still holds a savage brutal intensity for longer than most death metal drummers, but not Jayson which is pretty incredible for a thrash drummer....
I should qualify all of the above perhaps dribble by saying that I am not a drummer, or even in a band and a lot of the people on this forum like Meta and Dave for example for starters, are way more qualified to talk on this subject than me, but that is my best guesses, thoughts out loud, however silly they might be in reality...suspect I am displaying my ignorance a bit but there you go...interesting debate. the only way to truly settle it I reckon would be for Jayson and Ted to have a drum off like two rival DJ's or Iron Chef or something....
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Post by grief on Oct 16, 2007 16:07:51 GMT -5
I know this band called Blood Drift, they have this wild drummer too ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by zooba on Oct 16, 2007 19:58:51 GMT -5
nah, I thought they were pretty rubbish actually. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by yaark on Oct 17, 2007 6:46:55 GMT -5
I think Jayson is much more varied than just flat out speed and death metal drumming.
Check out Soundscape - you will know what I mean.
The double bass rythms he plays are very unique, precise and vary so much!! Even just within one section of a song.
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