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Post by ironguardian on Jan 15, 2008 23:57:54 GMT -5
How often do you downtune your guitars? How far have you ever gone?
I tried downtuning to a C# one time, to play some early Mort. Didn't get it to wrok to well, as I'm not brilliant at tunning.
I'm currently learning The Unnatural Conception (paramaecium). I've asked Jason De Ron, what he used t oget his heavy as hell sound... and he had downtuned to Bb!!!
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Post by exodus312 on Jan 16, 2008 0:17:44 GMT -5
I usually down-tune all the time, except for when I have to play at church, in which case I tune to standard.
Mostly I use Eb or Drop D, but I've been messing around alot with the guitar tuned down to D lately.
I've gone Drop-C a couple of times, as well as going down to C#. I think that the lowest that I have gone was when I converted my 6-string into a 7-string... that was pretty weird....
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Post by ironguardian on Jan 16, 2008 1:24:59 GMT -5
Whats the difference between Drop D and D?
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Post by exodus312 on Jan 16, 2008 2:14:08 GMT -5
drop d is when the guitar is still in standard tuning, but you only tune down the low e-string to d, so tuning is d-a-d-g-b-e.
D tuning is when you tune all six strings down, so from low to high it goes d-g-c-f-a-d. Normally just called Standard tuning Down 1 whole step (or something). From here, you can get "Drop-C" tuning, which is esentially the same thing. Tune guitar down 1 step, then lower the low D to C. Used alot in metalcore.
Then there is open-d, which goes DADF#AD, but that's a weird tuning that I don't wanna go into.
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Post by Todd on Jan 16, 2008 11:46:45 GMT -5
i tune one guitar to Eb standard, one to C# standard my seven string is always tuned to B [but sometimes i drop it down to A if I am in a goofy mood] and another to D standard and they all serve their unique purpose
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Post by Lunkwill on Feb 9, 2008 12:45:13 GMT -5
I never downtune my guitar. Sometimes I might put it into DADGAD or Open G, but I just don't like the way the strings feel when downtuned. I'd have to go up at least one guage or maybe to to get the feel I'm looking for and then if I tuned to standard I'd have to adjust the neck to compensate for the extra tension from the heavier strings. I just need MORE GUITARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Todd on Feb 9, 2008 13:58:10 GMT -5
you must use a hard tail guitar i take it?
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Post by Lunkwill on Feb 9, 2008 20:47:40 GMT -5
Yep.... TonePros locking bridge with string through body routing.
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Post by Todd on Feb 10, 2008 8:31:03 GMT -5
yeah, those are a pain in the butt to resetup if you go with anything heavier than a .046 gauge low E string.
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Post by ironguardian on Feb 10, 2008 23:12:15 GMT -5
I should learn all about this setup thing people keep talking about...
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Post by Lunkwill on Feb 11, 2008 1:40:04 GMT -5
Here ya go bro. This will give you a pretty good rundown of basic setup. mysite.verizon.net/jazz.guitar/guitarsetup.htmLearning how to do this will save you a fortune over the years and maybe even make you a few bucks on the side.
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Post by ironguardian on Feb 11, 2008 2:40:03 GMT -5
Thanks Jason. We now have two Jasons ... no wait, three people called Jason on here now. Only two ever post though... I think Jason de Ron only posted once.
That site looks very useful.
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Post by Todd on Feb 11, 2008 6:09:53 GMT -5
I'm a weirdo, but intonate everything to the 14th fret and never the 12th.
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Post by ironguardian on Feb 11, 2008 6:49:12 GMT -5
Actually that site looks confusing, now that I've read it a bit more
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Post by Lunkwill on Feb 14, 2008 21:30:32 GMT -5
I wish I was close by Rowland I'd show you how to set one up in no time. Hardtail guitars aren't that difficult.
If you do decide to try it, just take it slow. make small tweaks and not big adjustments. It's really more of an art than a precise science. And in order to use the specs on that site you need a small machinists ruler to make the measurements with.
And Todd, why the 14th fret? Wouldn't that make everything play sharp as you move up the neck?
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Post by Todd on Feb 14, 2008 21:43:08 GMT -5
it helps with the tuning stability when playing with a floating ridge it naturally flats itself when i tune so setting the intonation to the 14th fret offsets the natural half step loss when using a floating tremolo bridge like a floyd or kahler.. in a nutshell, it sets itself to a standard tuning now [depending on what key i am tuned to.which is usually D] so i don't have to spend 45 minutes tuning after stretching the strings.
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Post by Lunkwill on Feb 14, 2008 21:52:58 GMT -5
Ah ha.... floating bridge.... you lead guitarists and all your fancy gadgets....
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Post by Todd on Feb 15, 2008 11:32:58 GMT -5
yep....but when i restring i am old fashioned.....i don't use a string winder.
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Post by exodus312 on Feb 16, 2008 2:47:14 GMT -5
string winders are for the lazy or the stupid...
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Post by Todd on Feb 18, 2008 5:48:03 GMT -5
see that's what I'm talking about, plus I could never pull on the strings while i wind them......gotta keep that dumb thing on the tuning peg...........jessh. LOL
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